Posts by Juan Viejo2

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Cedars, I'm Thankful That You Are Here!!!

by minimus in

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you are a welcomed addition to this site!.

Juan Viejo2

How soon we forget. There were several posters who wanted to tar and feather Cedars when he first started the 2011 Global Survey. He was new here and was looking for any monetary support he could find to keep SurveyMonkey going. A few even implied he was running a scam.

I'm glad he got through all of that and went on to become one of our very best journalists. I am proud to call him my friend even though I have never met him in person. And I think Mrs. Cedars is nice too.

They both really need to update their wardrobes. They dress like middle-aged people from the 1930s...

JV

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Watchtower's stand on misquoting

by The JHWH in

i remember reading an article, maybe from the 70's not sure, where wtbts condemned people who misquote people for their own purposes.. i'd be thankful if anyones remembers this and could post it here..

Juan Viejo2

If the Watchtower says it or prints it...

It's a lie.

JV

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Well, I talked with two active JWs about the latest understanding of the F&DS.

by Theocratic Sedition in

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i know a brother who went to the most recent annual meeting.

older brother, non-annointed, elder, wife a pioneer, and overall a pretty good dude.

he let me take a peak at the new awake dropping in 2013, which by the way i have to give credit where it's due as i like the new 16 page format.

Juan Viejo2

My question on this subject of the Governing Body = Faithful Slave is directed to Steven Unthank and our friends in Australia:

During the Victoria child-abuse investigation, the Watchtower's Legal Department stated that the Governing Body was not an actual entity, but rather just a "theological concept." (Help me out here, Steve. It's been a while and I could not find my notes. Correct me if I got it wrong.)

If this is the case, then this is another situation where the Watchtower has said something publicly (as in court or to a news organization) and then within months either deny they ever said it or reversed themselves.

JV

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Movies You Watch Over & Over & Over

by 3acrewood in

have you noticed there are certain movies you just never get tired of watching?

what's does your list include?

here are some of mine (in no particular order as to favorites):.

Juan Viejo2

I pretty much agree with everyone's selections. All very good movies. When my wife and I take a trip we usually bring along a few movies to watch along the way when nothing is good on the motel TV. In fact, we just did this very thing a couple of weeks ago. What is unique about this list is that it contains movies, that when they are on TV, we stop what we are doing and just watch them for awhile - in spite of how short a time it has been since we saw them last. Here they are in no particular order:

Tombstone (Kurt Russell and Val Kilmer)

Last of the Mohicans (Daniel Day-Lewis)

Mama Mia! (Meryl Streep)

The Commitments

Dirty Dancing (Patrick Swayze)

The Notebook (Ryan Gosling)

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Because of their length, we don't usually take these with us on a trip, but watch them at least once a year and stop to watch them when we see them on TV:

JFK (Kevin Costner)

Godfather I and II (Al Pacino)

Avatar 3-D (we have a 3-D TV)

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When I am just bored and want something to divert our attention for an hour or so:

Bullitt (Steve McQueen) - Me

Pretty Lady (Richard Geer) - My wife

We have probably 50 DVDs, but some we haven't watched in years - but the ones on this list are just about worn through, if that is possible with DVDs.

JV

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Maybe it's being blonde, but I need clarification on "new light"..

by diana netherton in

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am i correct in stating the the "new light" is now that the gb are the the fds as opposed to the.

and is that switch because the number doesn't match and some "deranged" souls.

are now partaking at the memorial?.

Juan Viejo2

Read Cedars's article over at JWSurvey.org. He covers the whole issue as well as I expect it ever will be explained.

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/governing-body-says-we-are-the-faithful-and-discreet-slave

JV

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Apostates back in the days of IRC & Chat Rooms

by JustThatGirl007 in

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i used to be really active in the jw chat rooms on irc.

i was an op on several and i had my fair share of banning apostates.

lol).

Juan Viejo2

I used to get on the Usenet frequently. There were some pretty good threads there until the spammers and pornographers took it over completely.

I often got into long arguments with OBVES (yes, our own "scatologist"). He/she would go on about how the Bible would show that every single day since Pentecost was significant and should be observed. I think the end of the world, according to OBVES, must have occurred at least 5,000 times since those days in 1998-2000 when he was doing his very best predicting.

There were a few good posters. Some were very reasonable and used logic in their appeals for all of us to reassess our beliefs. The Usenet was a good thing. It still exists, but its popularity and access is severely limited.

Now there is Topix and Yahoo!Answers. It seems that the spirit of the Usenet has possessed these forums and others like them. They still make for a few good reads, but for the most part have been taken over by JWs who prefer to copy and paste from the Watchtower CD rather than engage in real discussion.

JV

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A Note from Randy/Dogpatch (Freeminds)

by Lady Lee in

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this past week randy was hospitalized.

he is now home recovering and has asked me to let you know that he will need a couple of days to recuperate.

in the mean time: if you have sent him emails or want to send him an email, it might take a couple of days for him to respond.. feel free to leave messages here for him.

Juan Viejo2

I was really getting worried. Glad to know you are still with us. We need you...

JV

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Video tribute to Oompa (Eric Reeder)

by cedars in

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i didn't know eric particularly well, and i feel terrible that i didn't reach out to him more or try to help him while i still had the opportunity.. i feel extremely helpless, but the least i can do is help others remember him who knew him better.. here is a video i've uploaded to youtube in his honor.... .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67a0imd6dng.

i hope it helps us as we mourn a much-loved member of this forum.. .

Juan Viejo2

Cedars,

Because of my connections to you on other projects I've guessed that you truly had big heart and open mind for those who have been damaged by the abuse and loveless religion promoted by the Watchtower. I did not know Oompa at all and only read his commentary here on JWN. Obviously many others knew him personally and cared for him.

Your video was perfect and a beautiful statement of love. Thank you.

Eric Reeder is just another example why those of us who are actively exposing the sins of the Watchtower and trying to expose their hypocrisy must not stop. Until the rest of the world understands that there are hundreds just like Eric suffering unimaginable pain and even death because of this cult - we must continue to get the word out.

I get emails and comments on my websites every week asking for someone to help at all - any help at all. I do my best, but fail miserably in too many cases.

None of us will know whether a well-timed hug and some quiet time to just listen would have saved Eric. Some of us are just too far away to help. It's just a shame that anyone should ever suffer that much.

JV

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5 Reasons Why the DEAF Masturbation Video is different than anything before...

by BluePill2 in

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as some of you have noticed the asl video warning against masturbation (another guilt trip) is creating waves.

this is not small fry.

1. it is humorous - most topics (like other policies) are serious/depressing (blood, shunning, pedos).

Juan Viejo2

Another interesting, yet shorter version. I'm ready to rock - how about you?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5G-ni6Yk0o

JV

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5 Reasons Why the DEAF Masturbation Video is different than anything before...

by BluePill2 in

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as some of you have noticed the asl video warning against masturbation (another guilt trip) is creating waves.

this is not small fry.

1. it is humorous - most topics (like other policies) are serious/depressing (blood, shunning, pedos).

Juan Viejo2

Just in case anyone has doubts that the video is legitimate and its source is JW.org, here is the link one more time...

http://www.jw.org/apps/index.html?option=QrYQFVTrlBBX&selLang=ASL&selPub=732 (it's #22)

JV